QuickBooks or Quick Scam? The Price I Paid for Trusting Their System

Written by: Tanner Leatherstein

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Time to read: 7 min

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Imagine this: you walk into your bank, deposit cash, watch as they verify it, confirm it, and add it to your balance. Then, five days later, you get an alert saying, “Sorry, that cash was counterfeit. We’re taking it back—and here’s a penalty on top.” Sounds absurd, right? Yet, that's pretty much what happened to me. But not with a bank—with QuickBooks, the platform I’d trusted for eight years to handle payments for my leather business. Now I’m out $10,000, and I want to share this story to help other business owners avoid the same trap.


In this blog, we will answer the following questions:


  • What lesson did I learn about refunding payments through alternative methods?
  • How did QuickBooks’ payment processing system fail to protect me from a $10,000 scam?
  • How did Chase Bank help resolve my issue, and what does it teach about choosing secure payment platforms?

The Order That Changed Everything


As a leather crafter, I get bulk orders from corporate clients pretty regularly. Recently, I received a request for 400 custom travel wallets—an order big enough that the client asked for a special price. We discussed the terms and I sent an invoice through QuickBooks like I’d done countless times before. The client received the invoice, paid the total, and I received a notification from QuickBooks: Payment received, funds cleared.


Everything looked great, and I double-checked my bank account to make sure the funds had been posted. After seeing the money was officially in my account, I set things in motion. Everything seemed fine, and I was eager to get this project rolling. But that’s when things took an unexpected turn.


The “Change of Plans” Refund Request


Right before I was set to ship the finished products, the client reached out with a change of plans. They wanted to cancel half of the order and asked for a refund for that portion. In business, adjustments happen, and I’ve always been big on keeping clients satisfied. So I thought, “No problem. I’ll just process the partial refund.”


When I went to issue the refund through QuickBooks, though, it wouldn’t allow me to send it back to the original payment method. That should have been a red flag, but up to that point, I had a flawless track record with QuickBooks. I’d used them for years without any issues, and I figured it was just a technical limitation on their platform. The client then suggested I wire the refund directly to their bank account instead.

A little unusual? Yes. But I’d had no issues in eight years of doing business this way. I wanted to keep things moving smoothly, so I went ahead and transferred the refund, wired to their bank account as they requested. With the refund sent and the remaining wallets shipped, I assumed all was well.

The Shock: Funds Reversed and Fees Added

About five days later, I received a notification from QuickBooks that left me absolutely floored. They were flagging the original $10,000 payment as fraudulent and reversing the funds. In other words, they were pulling $10,000 plus fees directly out of my account, leaving me without the payment or the product I’d already shipped.


In a single moment, the sale and everything I’d done to fulfill it turned into a massive loss. I couldn’t believe it. My first reaction was to reach out to QuickBooks, certain that if I provided the evidence, they would see the fraud and correct it. I forwarded every piece of proof: the emails with the client, the original invoice, shipping records, and even the wire transfer details showing that I’d followed up on a legitimate-seeming refund request.


But QuickBooks didn’t see it that way. Even with all the evidence, they chose to side with the so-called customer who’d scammed me. No empathy, no accountability, and not a word about the platform’s failure to protect one of its longest-standing customers. Just $10,000 gone, plus fees.

The Flaw in QuickBooks' System

Here’s the bitter truth: I trusted QuickBooks to be a secure payment processor. As a business owner, I paid them fees on every transaction, thinking it would protect me from exactly this kind of risk. I believed that their platform would ensure security and integrity in the payment process. Instead, I found myself on the losing side of a system flaw that enabled this scam to slip through without any safety net for my business.


At the end of the day, this wasn’t just about losing $10,000, though that was a hard hit. It was about the broken trust in a platform I had relied on for years. For me, this experience exposed a gap in QuickBooks' protection policies that left me vulnerable. Even with clear proof and honest communication, I was left high and dry.

Lessons Learned: Safeguard Your Transactions

If there’s one takeaway from this experience, it’s this: Never refund money outside of the original payment method. Even if a client requests it, even if it seems harmless, and even if you’ve never had issues with the platform before. QuickBooks or any other service might not protect you if something goes wrong.


This ordeal served as a painful reminder that no platform is fail-safe. I’m now researching alternative payment processors that offer better protections, but I’m sharing this story to help others avoid the same mistake. When you pay for a service, you’re also paying for peace of mind.

Update: Chase Steps In Where QuickBooks Failed

Just after I finished editing the video on this nightmare, I got a notification from Chase. Thanks to them, we recovered our money, and by some miracle, the products I’d sent to the scammer ended up back in my hands. But here’s the kicker: QuickBooks still hasn’t lifted a finger to address the issue. Huge thanks to Chase for stepping in where QuickBooks failed.


To all business owners: safeguard your hard-earned money by choosing platforms that genuinely prioritize your security. Convenience is valuable, but only if the platform truly supports you when it matters. Stay vigilant, and remember this story the next time a refund request comes through. 

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